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Why do folks force themselves into projects even though their work isn't that interesting? I mean I always assume people know themselves best & also when they feel their work is worth a look.
Let me just say once & for all "If your work doesn't blow yourself away or genuinely impress you then DON'T expect anyone else to be!!!"
It's that easy, hell when I got invites for projects when I was younger I'd make & entry & it was approved but I pulled out myself. I wasn't proud if it didn't impress me.
Am I wrong to assume this is the way people think when they're trying to establish themselves?
I mean you're not just trying to pass off a bad idea are you? With academic terms to try & convince people you're hot shit are you? Because fuck me if they aren't doing it all over sweden constantly.
Don't kid yourself, until there is someone actually living off of it here, you can't call it an industry hahaha, It's ridiculous.

There's alot of common sense in realizing your level & improving instead of just pushing out something that someone already did better right?
So have some self restraint & spend your time improving & blowing people away instead of just spending it on "selling yourself" better, don't bullshit me. Effort pays off & it needs to be said more often. Some pissy remark you learnt from some authoritary kind of bitch isn't going to make your life or career worth living for, effort will!
Now suck that up & don't you ever spit it out!
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:icona8ken:
You just completely depressed me. I thought my stuff was worth a couple of art shows but now im darn sure that i need to improve a fuck load before its even considered again.

Thankyou.
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:icon1mpact:
On the other hand, if you are happy/ecstatic with your own work, you will never evolve...but according to your formula, this also mean that you will never get to work for anyone as long as you evolve....

Doesn't make sense to me.

I ALWAYS dislike what I did yesterday (like, yesterday- Wednesday I painted something and I don't like it- today Thursday) but if that wasn't the case I wouldn't push myself to improve. Without being hired because other people find what I do "blow them away" then I would have no income, no real impetus beyond my own will to improve but also no meassure on how well I am doing with my improvement...
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:iconsausage-of-joy:
I think you can be allowed to be ecstatic about your own work haha, being happy making things tends to show in the work you make. I mean at some point you gotta be.
But yes, working for others to me is different mentality. It doesn't really matter what you think unless it has to do with the quality of the art they want.
so!
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~FabianMonk Aug 26, 2009  Student Digital Artist
Common sense isn't exactly that easy apply on a subject as this, I think. It feels to me like you're asking people to be objective with something that, because of its' very nature, is subjective. How can you put the distance necessary to judge something objectively between yourself and your own, personal work? I'm not trying to make excuses for people that never challenge themselves, but think of it this way: what about the drawings you made as a kid, were there ever any that you were really fond of? Drawings you could say you impressed yourself with? Looking back, do they still blow you away?
People evolve, their art evolves and things that might not impress YOU might still be things that the artist, who was responsible for making them, is fond of. Again, no excuse for those who could pull off some amazing shit but instead choose to sit in their comfort zone for the rest of their lives. But I don't get stuff like "why do folks force themselves into projects even though their work isn't that interesting". You decide what's interesting for you, and that's about it. Other people may think about that in a completely different manner. I guess you could say that people have different standards, but that doesn't necessarily make either of them better or worse, it just makes them different. I, for one, think that that's just one of the many beauties of art. Why get hung up on what the other people are doing? You're strong as shit, power up and just do your thing! If you have the drive and the enthusiasm (which you DEFINITELY do), you'll win those people you're gunning for over anyway.
I also think that self restraint coupled with very high personal standards CAN be a gigantic obstacle in your path. Too many artists that are technically truly great never manage to put out something cohesive because, by the time they've taken several steps forward in their own project, they're no longer impressed by what they started with and then they scrap everything and start all over again. Which can turn into one vicious circle. That's just generally speaking.

On thing though: selling yourself, especially doing it correctly, can require just as much effort as the actual art itself.
My opinion anyways. :beer:
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:iconsausage-of-joy:
You're right, it doesn't really affect me normally. But since the industry here is a fucking joke run by academics who tried to choke what I was doing I've become abit more sensitive haha. I just learnt the dramatic value of will power & effort back then & I've become seriously intolerant to anything less.

Progress wise, I totally agree, but why flood a market?
I'm saying this because people here have succumbed to believing they can just sell themselves "better" & stopped evolving. In a way this doesn't really hurt me at all, but I'd love to see an actual industry & turn that energy around y'know?
I think effort & progress cleans up your intention, you start dropping things naturally & go onwards. I think this feeling should be retained & not shut out. People here (in sweden, that I know) are hypocrites, I'm sorry for being vicious haha. But it's true that they don't prove a damn thing with their effort & only gang up on folks like me with weird mentality. Never no excuse!

Well there's two sides to "selling yourselves" I think. Either you have it naturally (I'd assume you & me both have that), which to me isn't really that much of a "selling" haha, just being damn cool hahah. It's the effort people put on the selling part that kills me! & By killing me I mean they put a princess in a tower & tells everyone it was me in my cave who locked her away & then some fucking knight will come & stab the shit out of me y'know? Damn right you do.
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~SmoteyMote Aug 26, 2009  Student Digital Artist
Agreed since you pretty much said everything I was just about to write.

I struggle a lot with sometimes even doing stuff because I see art that is so amazing and sometimes I feel that no matter what I do, I'll never be that good. Sometimes it takes a few days, weeks, or even a month or so to feel like getting back into full blown art rather than just sketches that I know I won't ever show anyone.
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:iconcropcircledesigner:
I actually had a bitchfit over this yesterday (or at least I think that's what it was about- vaguest fight I've ever been in). This person was hyping their stuff big time and claimed that if other people did that too they'd be succesful. Like, ouch...

I don't think I'm the best person to judge my own work, though. I can't look at my stuff objectively at all and if a pro tells me what they think, I am definitely taking their opinion seriously. Not to mention that the stuff I was fucking proud of a few months ago now sucks IMO xD
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:iconsausage-of-joy:
Well you're 16? so I think you're in the clear haha.

so... did you smack her?
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